Doctor Who?

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jamie77 wrote: You never know perhaps they will show the mini prologue to The Christmas Invasion that was boardcast as part of Children in Need over here. I would imagine many of you have already seen it via the BBC website.

I will say that the CIN mini ep you mention is NOT on the programming for overseas markets at this point for the Christmas Invasion. A friend of mine in Australia confirmed it did not run when they showed it there. It may be in some kind of legal tie up like Dimensions In Time, which will never be released on video or DVD. This is disappointing about the CIN thing, because that mini ep is really an important bridge between Parting of the Ways and The Christmas Invasion.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived."

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I am just gonna hold onto the hope that the CIN special will appear on the DVD release next year, along with all the Tardisodes for series two. As for Curse of the Fatal Death, I still keep thinking it will show up as an extra on one of the classic series DVDs eventually.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived."

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Do you think they will ever bring back the master

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cooky37 wrote: Do you think they will ever bring back the master

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Hard to say. RTD is not a fan of the Master, but he may eventually bow to the desires of the fans. Or we might have to wait for someone else to take over the franchise if/when evenutally RTD leaves.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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jamie77 wrote: Though having said that, there is the matter of the Return of The Master boxset being released over here in January. Now The Beginning boxset released this year did include the Mark Gatiss / David Walliams DW Night sketches from 1999 so I guess Curse of the Fatal Death could be included as a extra for the Master boxset as it features the Master and regeneration. Which of course the three stories to be included in the boxset, The Keeper of Traken, Logopolis and Castrovalva, also feature.

That would be an excellent place for it. Personally, I thought it was funny that Rowan Atkinson played the Master. After seeing Black Adder before I saw him in anything else, I wanted him to play the Master! Of course, Jonathan Pryce is absolutley superb. Another actor who could be an excellent Master, whose name was tossed around as the Doctor before Chris Eccleston, would be Bill Nighy.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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You know, There could be another "EVIL" timelord. Such a Timelord would not have risked his/her neck in the time War.

Wasn't there a Timelord called the Monk?

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There was the "Meddling Monk" that I think some people later
suggested could have been an earlier incarnation of the Master.

Isn't Borusa technically "immortal" -- even though he's not
out and about? And isn't Rassilon rumored to be similarly immortal?

They could invoke some way to "free them" or use Rassilon's
"Time Scoop" thingie to pluck old time lords from the "past"
couldn't they?

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iswallowedabug wrote: There was the "Meddling Monk" that I think some people later
suggested could have been an earlier incarnation of the Master.

Isn't Borusa technically "immortal" -- even though he's not
out and about? And isn't Rassilon rumored to be similarly immortal?

They could invoke some way to "free them" or use Rassilon's
"Time Scoop" thingie to pluck old time lords from the "past"
couldn't they?



If, as we have been led to believe, Gallifrey was destroyed during the Time War, then I would think Borusa would have been destroyed as well. As for other evil Time Lords, I see no reason that the Master could not have survived in some form in the Eye of Harmony. And we really don't know what happened to the Rani, but I have heard rumors SHE may be returning in series three. Now, the Doctor says there are no other remaining Time Lords, or he would feel them. But, I can also postulate that, if a Time Lord wanted to, they could disguise their presence from him. So, the Rani or the Master would be my best bets for that.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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jamie77 wrote: As Fringey has commented earlier in this thread, RTD has made quite a few negative comments about the Master. Whether this is his opinion or just a diversionary tatic to disguise the Master's return in the third series remains to be seen. There are some pretty convincing theories floating about in DW forums on how Captain Jack will be revealed as the Master during his return to the show next year.

Of course the big rumour about the third series at the moment is the one several British tabloids have featured over the last month. That is the one regarding plans to introduce the Doctor's son during next year's finale. Whether this is true or not remains to be seen, some sources have indicated that the whole story lies at Peter Davison's door. Apparently Peter Davison was discussing the new series with a journalist chum and he commented on the line in Fear Her about the Doctor being a father once. He speculated that perhaps RTD had plans to introduce 'Son of Doctor Who' as a means of continuing the series beyond the Doctor's twelve regeneration. Said Journalist then proceeded to write up a slightly embelished version of this theory and attribute it to RTD's plans for the third series. Several other papers then proceeded to use that story as basis for their own stories.

Again there are some convincing arguements on various DW forums on how Captain jack will be revealed as the Doctor's son during the course of the third series. Considering that kiss he gave the Doctor at in The Partings of the ways, some might consider that a bit beyond the pale.

RTD has again said in this month's DWM that there will be two returning villans next year and that neither will be the Ice Warriors.



I would tend to take ALL of these rumors as nothing but that. I doubt that Captain Jack would be either the Master or the Doctor's son. My reasoning on this is that he could not be the Master as he was trapped in the Eye of Harmony and surely the Doctor would know if he had escaped through hsi link with the TARDIS. As for his son, of course the Doctor was afather once. Susan was his granddaughter and, discounting the novel Lungbarrow as not necessarily being "canon", then she had to come from the Doctor's offspring somewhere!

I DO love the rumor mill and speculation though.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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Quote: Quote: ...As for his son, of course the Doctor was afather once. Susan was his granddaughter and, discounting the novel Lungbarrow as not necessarily being "canon", then she had to come from the Doctor's offspring somewhere!

I DO love the rumor mill and speculation though.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.
That raises the question, is Susan still alive? I don't think that all Gallifreyans were Time Lords (so there might be Gallifreyans still alive) but I was never clear on the distinction. Can anyone clarify this for me?

As for there being another Time Lord, they could always bring back Omega. He was thought to be dead a couple times already.

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There are many schools of thought on Susan. My personal belief is that if Susan was alive, the Doctor would know it. Whether she came back to Gallifrey and died in the Time or met some other end, I am pretty sure she is "dead".

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.