Now THIS Sucks!

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Jackson Dropped From The Hobbit

Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson and his partner, Fran Walsh, won't be tackling a film version of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit or a second proposed Rings prequel film after New Line told them the studio would be seeking another director, Jackson and Walsh told fans on the OneRing.net Web site. Jackson said that New Line producer Mark Ordesky told Jackson's manager, Ken Kamins, that the studio was moving ahead with the project without Jackson and Walsh because the pair declined to agree to do The Hobbit as a condition of settling a lawsuit against New Line to recoup income from the Rings films.

"We have always said that we do not want to discuss The Hobbit with New Line until the lawsuit over New Line's accounting practices is resolved," Jackson and Walsh wrote. But Michael Lynne, co-president of New Line Cinema, insisted that Jackson and Walsh commit to the project before the studio would settle the suit. When Jackson and Walsh declined, "Mark Ordesky called Ken and told him that New Line would no longer be requiring our services on The Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel,'" Jackson and Walsh wrote. "This was a courtesy call to let us know that the studio was now actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects."

Jackson and Walsh added: "Given that New Line are committed to this course of action, we felt at the very least, we owed you, the fans, a straightforward account of events as they have unfolded for us. ... This outcome is not what we anticipated or wanted, but neither do we see any positive value in bitterness and rancor. We now have no choice but to let the idea of a film of The Hobbit go and move forward with other projects." Those include a film version of Alice Sebold's supernatural novel The Lovely Bones.


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Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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That makes me a tad sad, because The Hobbit was my favorite out of the whole shebang.
I'm not on speaking terms with Peter Jackson since he cleaned up and looks like a regular person. I like my P-Jack fat and hairy and unkept.

Pssh. Sellout.

"She's the gristle in my teeth, the fly in my ointment, the thorn in my side!"
-Spike, Buffy: The Vampire Slayer

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As someone who has issues and is fighting a battle trying to lose weight, i am jealous as to how well he has done. As for selling out, considering how much money the LOTR trilogy has made for New Line, I can't really blame PJ for wanting a fair cut. I am sure if he could move the Hobbit to another studio, he would jump at it.

I remember when Jon Peters had the same issue with Warner Brothers over Batman. The movie made about 250 million dollars in first run is the US, not counting video sales and overseas profits. Yet, 5 years later Peters was still waiting for his share of the profits according to his contract. Warner Brothers (which I believe is the parent company to New Line, BTW) has funny little accountants who have ways of making sure a movie never shows a profit so they don't have to pay on back end deals. Slimy business men get far less respect from me than creative filmmakers who get screwed on what is rightfully theirs.

I guess what i am saying is, i don't blame Peter Jackson. I blame the greedy suits.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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12:00 AM, 21-NOVEMBER-06

MGM Weighs In On Hobbit

A day after Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson said he's bowing out of a film based on J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit, MGM is saying the matter is far from closed, Variety reported.

Jackson had told TheOneRing.net that he and partner Fran Walsh were bowing out after New Line, which produced the Rings films and has production rights to The Hobbit, told them the studio was moving ahead with the project without them. Jackson has said he won't discuss The Hobbit until a lawsuit against New Line over Rings accounting practices was settled.

But MGM, which owns the distribution rights to The Hobbit, on Nov. 20 told Variety through a spokesman that "the matter of Peter Jackson directing the Hobbit films is far from closed." New Line had no comment about Jackson's statement.

In his online statement, Jackson said that New Line executive Mark Ordesky, who shepherded the Rings trilogy, argued that New Line is dumping Jackson because the studio has a "limited time option" on the film rights, obtained from Saul Zaentz.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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Well..nuts to that. Will you get me a hobbit for Christmas, Fringey?

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caseystiletto wrote: Well..nuts to that. Will you get me a hobbit for Christmas, Fringey?



Thos little buggers can be hard to catch. Just ask Sauron. But, I will see what I can do.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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Ian McKellen -- "Gandalf" in the Lord of the Rings trilogy -- expressed disappointment Wednesday over the news that New Line had apparently decided to make The Hobbit and another Rings prequel without Peter Jackson, who directed the original three movies. "I'm very sad as I should have relished revisiting middle Earth with Peter again as team-leader. It's hard to imagine any other director matching his achievement in Tolkien country," McKellen wrote on his website. Meanwhile, the Lord of the Rings fan site, theonering.net, has launched a petition campaign asking New Line to back down from its position on Jackson and urging fans of the movies to boycott The Hobbit if it is produced without the director.

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I can see that this is going to be a long drawn out battle.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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fringey wrote: Ian McKellen -- "Gandalf" in the Lord of the Rings trilogy -- expressed disappointment Wednesday over the news that New Line had apparently decided to make The Hobbit and another Rings prequel without Peter Jackson, who directed the original three movies. "I'm very sad as I should have relished revisiting middle Earth with Peter again as team-leader. It's hard to imagine any other director matching his achievement in Tolkien country," McKellen wrote on his website. Meanwhile, the Lord of the Rings fan site, theonering.net, has launched a petition campaign asking New Line to back down from its position on Jackson and urging fans of the movies to boycott The Hobbit if it is produced without the director.

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I can see that this is going to be a long drawn out battle.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.


I saw an artical on (removed) News for Nerds that said Tolken people are taking the stuff back and going to find some other production co. to do the movies with Jackson as head.

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andrewlightstar wrote: fringey wrote: Ian McKellen -- "Gandalf" in the Lord of the Rings trilogy -- expressed disappointment Wednesday over the news that New Line had apparently decided to make The Hobbit and another Rings prequel without Peter Jackson, who directed the original three movies. "I'm very sad as I should have relished revisiting middle Earth with Peter again as team-leader. It's hard to imagine any other director matching his achievement in Tolkien country," McKellen wrote on his website. Meanwhile, the Lord of the Rings fan site, theonering.net, has launched a petition campaign asking New Line to back down from its position on Jackson and urging fans of the movies to boycott The Hobbit if it is produced without the director.

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I can see that this is going to be a long drawn out battle.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.


I saw an artical on (removed) News for Nerds that said Tolken people are taking the stuff back and going to find some other production co. to do the movies with Jackson as head.



I think we are gonna have to wait and see what MGM does first. Of course, there is also the problem that Jackson has other properties in the works, too, so it will be a while before he could do The Hobbit anyway.

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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This really does suck. I know Jackson could do the best version of The Hobbit.



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This confirms what Andrew had heard:

Zaentz Rings in Jackson for Prequels


As Lord of the Rings fans mounted a protest following word that New Line had dropped Peter Jackson from consideration as director of The Hobbit and another Lord of the Rings prequel, producer Saul Zaentz has given assurances that Jackson will indeed direct the two films. A German website, Elbenwald.de, posted an interview with Zaentz, who acquired the rights to the works of the late Rings writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, in 1976 (the Saul Zaentz Company owns Tolkien Enterprises), in which Zaentz says, "It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. ... Next year The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the Rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us, in contrast, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation." (The preceding quotation is a translation that appeared on TheHobbit-Movie.com from the German interview posted on Elbenwald.de.)

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Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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fringey wrote: This confirms what Andrew had heard:

Zaentz Rings in Jackson for Prequels


As Lord of the Rings fans mounted a protest following word that New Line had dropped Peter Jackson from consideration as director of The Hobbit and another Lord of the Rings prequel, producer Saul Zaentz has given assurances that Jackson will indeed direct the two films. A German website, Elbenwald.de, posted an interview with Zaentz, who acquired the rights to the works of the late Rings writer, J.R.R. Tolkien, in 1976 (the Saul Zaentz Company owns Tolkien Enterprises), in which Zaentz says, "It will definitely be shot by Peter Jackson. ... Next year The Hobbit rights will fall back to my company. I suppose that Peter will wait because he knows that he will make the best deal with us. And he is fed up with the studios: to get his profit share on the Rings trilogy he had to sue New Line. With us, in contrast, he knows that he will be paid fairly and artistically supported without reservation." (The preceding quotation is a translation that appeared on TheHobbit-Movie.com from the German interview posted on Elbenwald.de.)

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Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

See I told you so

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Don't get cocky, kid!

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

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fringey wrote: Don't get cocky, kid!

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

Who me? No... I just read a lot of new sits myself. slashdot being one of them and some places give me a heads up on stuff that dosn't hit the other regular news sits for days and sometimes weeks. Although I do hit a few news sits that aren't fit (hacker sites.) for posting here.

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andrewlightstar wrote: fringey wrote: Don't get cocky, kid!

Patrick
a.k.a. Fringey, The Fringe Element
"A life lived without passion is a life not lived.

Who me? No... I just read a lot of new sits myself. slashdot being one of them and some places give me a heads up on stuff that dosn't hit the other regular news sits for days and sometimes weeks. Although I do hit a few news sits that aren't fit (hacker sites.) for posting here.



Besids when I started posting on this board I said I was dyslexic and have always felt in someway as being ignored on board and in groups. So when I post or say something I try to be as right as I can be.